Wednesday, October 19, 2011

Answer to just-slightly-insane

The following it an answer to a question posed over at Kelly Thinks (a little more often). I'm posting it here because it's too long for a decent tumblr post, in my opinion.
The question is presumably in response to a couple of quotes from Msgr Phillip Reilly which I posted there earlier today. This was the question (my response follows.)

Abortion has existed for thousands of years (in ancient times, women used to ingest large quantities of certain herbs, which would induce a miscarriage), yet it has never led to any sort of a "culture of death." So what makes you think that's a possibility at all?
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The wilful death of an innocent person is not only a cause of the Culture of Death, but a fruit of that Culture. Murder, War, Prostitution and Slavery have also all existed for thousands of years and are all both fruits and causes of the Culture of Death.

The difference between then and now - though admittedly, where the change occured is a blurred period of decades or centuries - is that, save at the end of various civilisations, it has never been thought a decent, humane, fair or reasonable thing to intentionally destroy the life of another huaman being. This is particulalry so if that person had done no wrong to another.

A culture which accepts an inherrent moral evil as its norm is already one of Death, rather than Life. A culture which accepts multiple inherrently moral evils is one that has been totally swept up in a Culture of Death.

It is important to note that the Culture of Life and the Culture of Death have been competing world-views since the first decision mankind* ever made. That is to say, when we chose to disobey the Natural Law - the Law that is "written in the heart of every man and woman" (Evangelium Vitae, n 29) - we turned away from our natural end and became teleologically disordered.

In not being ordered toward our natural end or goal, we necessarily became ordered towards a certain [type of] death.

In short, it is not abortion as such that has lead to the Culture of Death that we are currently deeply immersed in. However, abortion, the killing of a unborn - and therefore totally innocent - human being for the well-being and/or comfort of another, is "the final nail in the coffin of the Culture of Life, so to speak," as Msgr Reilly once said to me.
As Mother Teresa said at the 1994 National Prayer Breakfast in the USA, "[T]he greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child, a direct killing of the innocent child, murder by the mother herself.
And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another?"

*mankind, still not a misogynistic was of saying 'humanity.'


Hannah said...

What about those of us who have different morals than you do, and who think that abortion and prostitution aren't wrong? What makes your morals superior to ours? Also, what exactly is so wrong about prostitution? As long as women aren't being forced to be prostitutes, I don't see what's so wrong about it. All it is is just another job, a lot like being a stripper or an exotic dancer. So why not decry strippers and exotic dancers as well, then? Why should you have any say in what jobs are okay and what jobs aren't okay? Shouldn't that be left up to each individual human being? After all, not everyone is okay with the idea of blindly believing what someone else tells you, like you Catholics do. So why expect everyone to be okay with that? Why not stop trying to control others' lives, stop trying to act as though you know what's best for them (which is incredibly arrogant, seeing as you don't even know most of the people whom you're trying to control, and therefore, you cannot possibly know what's best for them), and learn to focus on bettering your own life? Would that really be asking too much of you?

Kelly said...

Hi again Hannah!
There are about 7 different topics in that one comment, so it will take me a while to answer.
I'll post several blogs here in response to these questions over the next few months.

In the mean time, did you see my response to your objection with my argument against abortion. Namely, on the question of there being an objective moral standard or rule?
If so, would you please take the time to answer the questions I posed?

Pax et bonum!

Thomas Clarke said...

Hannah, let me tell you that if all Catholics in secular society blindly believed what people were telling them, there would be no Catholics in secular society.

Also, you accuse Kelly of being arrogant. She is. That's why she uses all that obnoxious Latin. But that's not why she and other Christians attempt to spread their belief. That tends to be driven by
1. A desire to see others enjoy the same fulfilment that they enjoy
2. A humble obligation to Christ (you know, the brown guy that got nailed to some wood that people keep talking about alongside moral issues that aren't directly related)

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